Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pink Pest Control

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of The Pink Panther cartoons. The mergers have it; the keeps don't cite policy. Drmies (talk) 04:24, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pink Pest Control

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Articles about individual episodes/shorts of the pink panther. They were nominated for AFD previously with a result of redirect all, but an editor thinks that that may apply only to some other episodes, but not these. Renominating in the spirit of cooperation, and to ensure consensus.

The series is clearly notable, however indivdual episodes are not (imo), all articles have the same content, and same references, except for a 1 or 2 line plot summary.

Original AFD discussion : Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Le_Cop_on_Le_Rocks

(will add links to similar articles) Gaijin42 (talk) 19:45, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There may be other articles as well, I will hunt and find them. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Retain - please see discussion for and against retaining here Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Le_Cop_on_Le_Rocks. Oanabay04 (talk) 19:56, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Basically every article in this category : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pink_Panther_animated_film_series Gaijin42 (talk) 20:16, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Retain I think the Pink Panther articles should be retained, but they also need to be expanded upon. At present, a great many have just the basics and are stub articles. All the other series' (Inspector, Ant and Aardvark, Misterjaw) do not need their individual entries, as they are far less notable.Tomatosoup97 (talk) 16:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Retain Agreed with Tomatosoup97. The Ant and Aardvark and Inspector series do not need separate entries (except for perhaps the first entry in each series. The Pink Panther's, on the other hand, weew quite significant. In addition, many of them are stub articles, which, by definition, mean that they need to be developed further. Rather than Redirecting all the PP entries (I'm talk to you, Gaijin42), develop and add to the articles. If this how the entries are viewed, then start redirecting all Tom and Jerry, Looney Tunes, Woody Woodpecker, Three Stooges, etc.Oanabay04 (talk) 19:42, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly I think that all of those likely should be redirected. Yours are just the ones I stumbled across via the aardvark/inspector issues. However, WP:OTHERSTUFF. I dont see how these episodes can be anything other than stubs, ever. Nobody was writing critical essays or books or articles about individual episodes. Any reviews that were done (if any) are likely lost forever. the only references you have (or likely will ever have) are about the entire series. If individual eps won an emmy or oscar, then that individual ep can stick around, but the 100+ ones certainly didnt all win awards and all get critical notability.Gaijin42 (talk) 20:36, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:05, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If this is how the separate entries are viewed, the redirect all but the notable entries for every other series—both theatrical and television—that has separate entries:

Bugs Bunny
Daffy Duck
Tom and Jerry
Woody Woodpecker
Laurel & Hardy
Seinfeld
The Simpsons
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Pluto

I am not following how the Pink Panther series is any less notable than those listed above. Admittedly, some Panther entries are less notable, and currently, there is only one authoritative book on the subject.Oanabay04 (talk) 15:12, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFF. I am starting here. I think very likely those other pages should be merged or redirected. Perhaps I will do that. The end result of what happens to those pages has no bearing on what happens to these pages. Pink panther itself is very notable. Nobody is contesting that. You have just admitted that the episodes are not, and there is only one source that covers all of the episodes. If individual episodes are notable, break them out. But what is the value in having the same page duplicated 100 times with just a 2 line summary difference? Gaijin42 (talk) 15:20, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of The Pink Panther cartoons. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 15:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Unless there is secondary sourcing establishing that an episode of television is significant in some manner, to my mind said episode does not merit its own article. Doniago (talk) 14:37, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:58, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as lacking in-depth coverage in reliable, independent third-party sources. Should such sources be integrated into the article feel free to leave a note on my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:46, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.